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The bigger list of chinese scams

Submitted by chris on Fri, 2007-08-10 01:52.

It's an expensive lesson Gary, but I think your best bet first is the local police. When making your complaint try to emphasise that there are many victims, and the dollar amounts involved are significant. Even taking a print out of this web page might help.

the newest one that reached

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 2007-08-09 21:14.

the newest one that reached me on skype: www.sledco.com
they just don't give up!

:) No, they certainly don't,

Submitted by chris on Fri, 2007-08-10 01:45.

:) No, they certainly don't, will add this site.

Thanks

Could you please add "

Submitted by Joe (not verified) on Fri, 2007-08-10 00:16.

Could you please add " www.felicity66.com " to your list.?

Check it and you will see this is a really scam site.
thank you

Many thanks, will add this

Submitted by chris on Fri, 2007-08-10 01:45.

Many thanks, will add this in.

hi , can you please give me

Submitted by eragon (not verified) on Wed, 2007-09-26 03:15.

hi ,

can you please give me info about the KRIDOMEX IMPORT & EXPORT CO. their address is http://www.kridomexshop.com/ .Also their certificate of verisign is fake as the link will open a page which is created by themselves and i have checked with verisign which donot have any info about this company. Please check this one.

looking for your reply.

If the Verisign certificate

Submitted by chris on Wed, 2007-09-26 03:20.

If the Verisign certificate image is a fake, then that's reason enough to add to the list.

Another user has commented too near the end of the comments section that they were scammed by this website

Hi, Be careful with this

Submitted by Edison Hii (not verified) on Tue, 2007-10-16 22:50.

Hi,
Be careful with this company (KRIDOMEX IMPORT & EXPORT CO.) website is http://www.kridomexshop.com/. I placed an ordered and money transferred but did not receive the stuff. Their staff named Valerie Grillo said they did not receive my payment but I hv the payment certificate issued by the bank. I kept write in but no reply...! What a shame to hv this kind of people in this world.

yes,this is a big cheat

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 2008-03-01 16:48.

yes,this is a big cheat company,I added it yet

http://www.tworldelectronicsc

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2007-08-10 11:30.

http://www.tworldelectronicsco.com/ seems like another one. MSN email. Payment particulars not listed. Contact only through form.

...

They certainly are, will add

Submitted by chris on Sat, 2007-08-11 01:39.

They certainly are, will add to the list.

Thanks

www.online-elecshop.com

Submitted by Highlander (not verified) on Fri, 2007-08-10 12:43.

www.online-elecshop.com

Another Chinese site to add to your list? Has anyone bought product from this company?

Another scam site, will add

Submitted by chris on Sat, 2007-08-11 01:37.

Another scam site, will add this to the list.

we purchased one mobile

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 2007-08-14 14:28.

we purchased one mobile phone. after we trasfered the money we did not receive any feedback about our shipment. we have send several mails as no one did pick up the phone. we received a 2 month old tracking number from a shippment to someone else, but not ours. it seem the are only interested to cheat customer. after you payed nothing will be happend. we are filing now a report at the Shenzhen Police in China. we only can warn people not to purchase from them.
dont trust them at all. you will loose your money.

Chris are you aware of a

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2007-08-10 18:58.

Chris are you aware of a site called ecvv, and these other trade lead companies, i actually ran a search on the company i was planning to do business and it turned out they listed it, and just to be safe i put in about 30 of the websites listed in their search and nothing, so does that mean that ecvv is a credible source for legitimate companies? check out ecvv.com

Hi I've come across these

Submitted by chris on Sat, 2007-08-11 01:49.

I've come across these B2B sites often, and it's safe to say that many of these scam sites have listed themselves on trade sites. That's not to say the trade site itself is bad, but consider they are really only a medium for businesses to contact each other and as such you should assume they have no specific knowledge on the website and it's credibility. Ideally if you are a reseller or retailer you can research the website/company you are looking to buy from and hopefully find other people who have traded with that company. If it were me I would refuse to pay by Money Order, or Direct bank Transfer, and only Credit Card. At least that way, if it's a scam and no goods arrive, or they are counterfeit when you assumed they were geniune articles, you have recourse to recover your losses. Unless someone explains otherwise, I see no reason why you couldn't pay by Credit Card.

I noticed

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2007-08-10 21:18.

I noticed www.ebizwebpages.com on your list-i have to ask why you feel they are scammers. thanks, john.

Hi John. I suspect I

Submitted by chris on Sat, 2007-08-11 01:33.

Hi John.

I suspect I made an error when compiling the list, perhaps one of the scam sites used this service to host their web pages and I failed to recognise this. I will remove from the list. Thanks for letting me know.

Another Chinese site to add

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 2008-06-08 20:17.

Another Chinese site to add to your list? Has anyone bought product from this company WWW.ctksu.com.

www.cieuo.com is yet another

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 2007-08-11 06:48.

www.cieuo.com is yet another one who seek to find victums
on the dating sites etc, why not send these lists to the chinese ambassy? they kill of the real trade. they start to look like the nigerian,s.

Thanks, I will add to the

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-13 00:39.

Thanks, I will add to the list. At present I'm trying to complain to anyone who will listen :)

Am totally against

Submitted by Elena (not verified) on Sun, 2007-10-21 22:08.

Am totally against fraudsters regardless of colour or race. But I'll like to point out that been a Nigerian and seeing my country tanished by some selfish assholes does not mean we should all be beaten by one stick. I get business contacts for my family because we're into import and export, I must say that after much research about internet fraud am just wondering if you could trust any chinese website?

There are lots of lazy chinese people who are setting up websites to reap off people but that doesn't mean they're all the same. This also applies to lazy Nigerians and other nationalities defrauding people of their hard earned money. This is unacceptable and should never be condoned. I believe that people who are conned by these people are greedy. Why? If someone wants to make you a millionaire, why don't you ask them to give it to themselves or the charity? I've got tonnes of emails and letters from scammers but I always ignore them. Conned artists never giveup so I never read emails from 'the unknown'. The chinese and the eastern european scam are worse than the Africans so please, let us breath and stop painting us all with one colour.

NOTE: A few people have been caught scamming but claimed they were Nigerians on their emails. When they setup a deal with a fellow scammer in Ghana, they realised that they were actually from Asia and Eastern Europe.

My final word is that we should all follow the simple guidelines of online shopping and security. Also, I hope that when these scammers are caught, they actually rot and perish in jail for putting people through pain. Be wise and never send wired money transfer to strangers anywhere. Peace!

Hi to everyone. I just want

Submitted by rockmeisterii (not verified) on Sat, 2007-08-11 21:40.

Hi to everyone. I just want to ask if somebody tried this website, actually they don't have a their own website but they have it on wholesalecentral.com. Here it is

http://www.wholesalecentral.com/rainbow/store.cfm

Please tell me if they are legit or not. Thank you.

I'd be cautious about this,

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-13 01:00.

I'd be cautious about this, assuming you can pay by Credit Card then there is less risk of losing your money outright. However I would suggest if they are legitimate, the goods you'll be buying in this case will not be genuine but counterfeit. If it were me, I'd not purchase anything at all.

Hi mate I wish I had of seen

Submitted by Ryan (not verified) on Sun, 2007-08-12 03:29.

Hi mate

I wish I had of seen this webpage earlier. I recently got in contact with WWW.GEOOEG.COM and purchased an ipod from them. I sent them money through western union ( which is my own stupid fault) and then never heard from them again....

They are definitely a scam site

Regards

Ryan

Thanks Ryan, I should also

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-13 03:17.

Thanks Ryan, I should also point out the website is http://www.goeeog.com

Dear Ryan, I am sorry what

Submitted by Javier (not verified) on Wed, 2008-02-20 14:02.

Dear Ryan,

I am sorry what happen to you, we are the owners of www.geooeg.com and we never sell ipots. What we do is to promote green business and entrepreneurship to help built a better future thus our name GEO OEG (GEO). We are very sad what unscrupulous people arrange for themselves.

Many regards,

Javier

Hi, Here's a few who took me

Submitted by John (not verified) on Sun, 2007-08-12 04:07.

Hi,
Here's a few who took me for $5,000.00.
www.elec-bridge.com
www. 568vogue.com
www.eurbds.com
I reported them to the China and US Internet Fraud. Guess what I haven't heard 1 word back. I figure I'm just a drop in the ocean of scams. I sell on ebay and there are buyers who are out to scam you too.

Here's a new one I ran across.
www.etdyy.com
I don't do business with free mail addresses. That's my frist tip. Also I've gotten a little wiser. the same person owns at least 20 or more of these scammer sites.

Thanks for your eyes,

John

The good news is that all

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-20 05:08.

The good news is that all these sites appear to be offline. Let's hope they stya that way.

sorry but

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 2008-03-29 13:28.

sorry but the
http://www.etdyy.com/
is still active 29-march-2008

they always come up with new

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 2008-04-22 21:59.

they always come up with new website this scammers will never stop its only takes less than one hour to make anew website the best thing to do if you dont want to get scammed is to run some background search on the website and the person you gonna send money to, its easy just put the names in the search engine press enter and see what will come up on the screen for best result try few different search engines(google,yahoo,msn..etc)

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 2007-08-12 05:48.

more sites

www.wlwctron100.com
www.market7788.com
www.pugay.com
www.electron100.com

Thanks, will add these to

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-13 00:45.

Thanks, will add these to the list

www.pugay.com is a

Submitted by llumaju (not verified) on Tue, 2007-09-25 11:52.

www.pugay.com is a fraudulent webshop don't buy on it.

They are thieves.!!!!

Hello, I am very interested

Submitted by Linda W (not verified) on Sun, 2007-08-12 08:35.

Hello,
I am very interested in purchasing from www.ebay555.com. I've noticed they are on this list and before I order anything from them I want to be certain that they really are a legit company.

Any advice would help?

Thanks!

My advice is to not order

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-13 00:44.

My advice is to not order anything at all from this website and cease any communications you have had with them

i recently bought a ps3 and

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 2007-08-12 09:12.

i recently bought a ps3 and paid through paypal and after looking at your site i know suspect it to be another fake site (www.wtoeby.com) will i be covered by paypals buyer protection or have i lost the money

I don't use PayPal

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-13 03:16.

I don't use PayPal personally, so I don't know what the processes is, however I would contact PayPal immediately and let them know.

Hello, Is the site

Submitted by Kim Arp (not verified) on Fri, 2007-08-17 14:05.

Hello,
Is the site www.wtoeby.com fake ?.
Did you recieve yoyr ps3 ?.

Thank You,
Kim

Yes Kim, you should not

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-20 05:09.

Yes Kim, you should not trust this website.

no i never received and only

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 2007-12-18 15:02.

no i never received and only got part of my money back from paypal

How much did you get back

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 2008-05-19 03:21.

How much did you get back from paypal? I'm looking at sales-digital.cn and considering buying off them.

but the ps3 has arrived you

Submitted by mourad (not verified) on Sat, 2007-08-18 20:41.

but the ps3 has arrived you at least?

no i never received it

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 2007-12-18 15:04.

no i never received it

Firstly I want to thank you

Submitted by Beani (not verified) on Sun, 2007-08-12 17:01.

Firstly I want to thank you for this great site.You saved me just under £500 last night.I was about to transfer money using paypal to www.one-good.com and I thought I would do a Google search on their name because I did not get the lead from a trusted trade site.I came across your site and they were on the list.Lucky escape!!Thank you.
Anyway last week I ordered from a company listed on www.ecplaza.net.I noticed you have www.ecplaza.net on your list.This is a trade site with loads of companies.All the companies featured on their site can't be scammers so can you tell me why they are on your list?
Thanks Beani

Hi Beani I suspect

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-13 00:43.

Hi Beani

I suspect www.ecplaza.net came up in my searches as a lot of these scam sites lists themselves on trade sites. However you are correct, and this website shouldn't be on the list of chinese scam sites, so I will remove.

www.bj200808.com I am really

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 2007-08-12 22:47.

www.bj200808.com

I am really considering buying from them.

But I need to know if they are a scam or not.

Can someone please find out for me?

No, don't order from them,

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-13 00:37.

No, don't order from them, they are a scam. This website is the same as all the others, and I will add it to the list

Hello friend, This is

Submitted by Angela (not verified) on Thu, 2008-02-28 13:31.

Hello friend,

This is Angela,I an Chinese girl,I usually be concerned about the international services,I know there are always a lot of scams between the international business,I hate this phenomenon very muuch,it stop a lot of normal business,I am very pleased to try my best to help everyone who need help.so Friend,what can I do for you?maybe I can check it for you.any needed please just contact me,my email is angela.han16@yahoo.com

Have a good day.

Yours

Angela

Although I have never bought

Submitted by TA (not verified) on Mon, 2007-08-13 00:58.

Although I have never bought anything from these scammers, I have been the victim of their unsolicited email crap in my eBay listings. They pretend they are asking a question related to the item, and use a hijacked eBay inactive account that has a one rating.

I would like to make a couple of suggestions to anyone who has been a victim from fruadulent websites. It's not enough to contact the local police (or eBay, etc.). You need to be pro-active and take measures to try and stop the illegal activity.

First, go to the website and note the I.P. address that is hosting the account. Then go to Arin.net, do a search on the I.P. address, and find out who is hosting the account. You will see an email address in the listing on where to report the problem (usually it will say "abuse@thehostingcompany.com". The hosting companies have a policy in place that prevents illegal activities. (Your firewall will list the I.P. address.)

Second, Microsoft also has "terms of service" regarding the Hotmail and MSN email accounts. Report the users to Microsoft immediately.
You can send an email to "abuse@hotmail.com". They have a phone number but I have never tried it (800-386-5550).

Third, you can go to "NetworkSolutions.com", look at the bottom of the homepage for "whois" and find out who the owner is for the website domain name. If the account information if protected by "Domains By Proxy", it will list who the proxy is and contact them. Both the Proxy and the Domain Hosting company have terms that prevent illegal activities.

This may seem like alot of work, but I did all of this on "Ele-Eur.com" just now and it took less than 5 minutes. At some point we have to start fighting back against all this illegal activity. If you just let it go and do nothing, they will continue and grow. And if you think one complaint to the hosting company or Microsoft won't help, you're wrong, and if everyone who has been scammed complains, the evidence will be hard to ignore.

Thank you for your support, and good luck!

Your quite right, and it's

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-13 01:03.

Your quite right, and it's good advice for anyone with the knowledge to do so. Also groups such as Artists Against 419 www.aa419.org are an excellent resource and can help. They specialise in exactly this kind of thing.

Dear Chris Can you check out

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 2007-08-13 07:08.

Dear Chris
Can you check out this site for me www.newworldtrade.net. thanks

Heh. I love some of the

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-13 07:41.

Heh. I love some of the text they quote on their website.

[quote]

My mother always said,trade-world is like a box of chocolates,you never know what you are gonna get.Our company,New World Trade Co.,Ltd,founded in 2002,have been devoted to offering the best chocolates for customers from all over the world

[/quote]

Quite right, you never what your going to get...or not going to get....at the very least they're selling counterfeit merchandise, which is my suspicion. The website was created in 2006, fake information was used to register the website. They use images of NBA players that they'd clearly have no right to do so, and so on.

CTT Shop they have had 395

Submitted by John (not verified) on Mon, 2007-08-13 07:58.

CTT Shop they have had 395 euro for Samsung T.V they have had it since June 6th 2007 there excuse is there computers have been hacked which is true bet they where hacked on May 16th 2007 does it take nearly 2 months to sort computers these days

Many Thanks John

chris check this site, i

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 2007-08-13 12:57.

chris check this site, i have orderd before and recived my item from it but it was only a small item at 250 USD. They also sent me a photo copy of a form that they are a registerd business.

www.jersey2008.com

Yeah, several key

Submitted by chris on Tue, 2007-08-14 04:13.

Yeah, several key points.

Jersey2008

The name makes no sense. I understand Chinese do prefer to use numbers in website addresses as it's easier for them to distinguish between numbers and letters of our alphabet, but Jersey2008 ?

Copyright: 2001-2005 jersey2008.com

Again, makes no sense, especially when we look at the date this website was registered.

Creation Date........ 2007-06-15 11:42:20

No prices, No secure payment methods, the usual Hotmail contact addresses.

Let me ask you this, did you indicate to them you would buy more items if you were satisfied with the one you ordered ? Are you certain the item you purchased is geniune and not counterfeit or just reconditioned to look new ?

Chriss, jersey2008 is linked

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 2007-08-14 12:52.

Chriss, jersey2008 is linked with a alibaba.com trusted pass seller who is verified by "Authenticated
and Verified by
Huaxia D&B China on Jul 10,2007" . Yes i did metion i was going to purchase more. What i am going to try, is i will ask the seller to send me some items, with a tracking number once they have cleared into Australia then i will pay the money. If not, he will lose my business.

thanks

Alibaba isn't a

Submitted by chris on Wed, 2007-08-15 01:57.

Alibaba isn't a surety.

Check out this link as an example

hi there, i noticed you did

Submitted by steve (not verified) on Mon, 2007-09-17 01:52.

hi there, i noticed you did business with this company, are they a trusted company?. Because i would like to trade with them but carn't find any buyers feedback,
thanks steve

Great site Chris, i have

Submitted by Mike (not verified) on Mon, 2007-08-13 13:11.

Great site Chris, i have been hit so many times by web addresses mostly in your BIG LIST of scamers. That sentence "if its to good to be true" is true, i have been so tempted to buy many times, but just couldn't do it for fear of loosing my hard earned money, i even befriended a Chinese lady on the net and asked if she could check out some of these companies by going to their office addresses, she came back to say they did not exist at these addresses, i even offered to pay for her time but she refused(their not all scamers ). One more thing with the telephone numbers, in China you can have a mobile phone number that has the characteristics of a land (or office) line.
I have since been to China and i could find nothing Cheep, maybe a slight reduction in most electronic goods (around 5% to 10%) and some cheep memory for my camera, but no point in buying anything, for the cost of transport and warranty problems you'd better buy local. I notice you repeat yourself so many times about how to check a scam site, maybe you should write up the "rules" and say READ THIS FIRST, its not hard for people to do themselves. CHEERS

Nice post Mike. I

Submitted by chris on Tue, 2007-08-14 04:02.

Nice post Mike. I especially like the efforts you made to ensure you weren't a victim, I also assume you are a reseller or retailer of some kind. Or just very very thorough.

Regarding Chinese not all being scammers. Absolutely, and I hope I've not come across in this manner, as to do would be a disgrace.

The point you make about prices not being that different in China is a great one. They really aren't, perhaps too often we are told China is the source of all that's cheap, perhaps we imagine small children assembling our Air Jordan shoes. But, and I don't enjoy saying this, greed is a factor here, and it leads to greater apathy when approaching these sites. "If it's too good to be true, then it probably is" could not have a better demonstration than these websites, but innately we want to get a bargain, and unfortunately we ignore our own common sense.

I wasn't aware of the ability to have a mobile number that has all the appearances of a land line, that makes things more difficult. Let's hope there's no reason for me to maintain this list in a few weeks. But I doubt that.

Lastly, the Guide. Very much something I intend to do, and in many repsects it will be much easier to complete now that I'm seeing so many comments. There's no point trying to explain anything if I don't understand who I'm trying to explain it to.

Thanks

Chris

Hi, can you confirm this

Submitted by rockmeisterii (not verified) on Mon, 2007-08-13 18:57.

Hi, can you confirm this website www.glomarket.com. Can you tell me if this is a scam or not? Thank you.

This website is quite

Submitted by chris on Tue, 2007-08-14 03:28.

This website is quite different than the others, certainly I wouldn't say it's a scam straight away which I tend to do.

My personal belief is what you are buying is either reconditioned, or counterfeit, maybe not so illegal in Hong Kong or China, but still reason enough to avoid everywhere else.

Also they only accept non-secure payment methods, again Western Union, Bank Transfer, so why set yourself up for potential headaches.

but if you wana do somthing

Submitted by mahdi (not verified) on Sat, 2008-02-09 18:26.

but if you wana do somthing in business you should set yourself up for potential headaches.

Glomarket is certainly not a

Submitted by Mutabaruka (not verified) on Tue, 2007-11-20 16:04.

Glomarket is certainly not a scam. I've been buying mobile phones and other stuff from them for quite some time now and I've never had any problems whatsoever.

This is not a scam, and has

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 2007-12-04 04:10.

This is not a scam, and has proven to be a great company. I myself have bought 5 phones from them

Hello,I can not open this

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 2008-03-01 16:26.

Hello,I can not open this website www.glomarket.com ,is it any scam ?

It's definitely not a scam.

Submitted by Alan Chang (not verified) on Mon, 2008-03-17 13:49.

It's definitely not a scam. They're our customer. We hosted their site, www.glomarket.com. Since it's hosted with a US company, we don't know how did it work. Maybe the server was not stable.

Hello, I am very interested

Submitted by Cautious buyer (not verified) on Mon, 2007-08-13 22:44.

Hello,

I am very interested in buying from www.bj200808.com - Who can tell me if they are scammers or not???

Please reply.

Nick.

I can. Scam.

Submitted by chris on Tue, 2007-08-14 03:05.

I can. Scam.

Hi guys! Just want to advice

Submitted by Alex79 (not verified) on Tue, 2007-08-14 09:15.

Hi guys!
Just want to advice another chinese scam site: www.shopshx.com this isn't in list above for now and I thought it's important to let it well known all over the web.

bye bye

Thanks for letting me know,

Submitted by chris on Tue, 2007-08-14 10:35.

Thanks for letting me know, have added this site to the list.

did you bought anything from

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 2007-10-29 14:24.

did you bought anything from them or did anyone bought anything?

another scam website

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 2007-08-14 11:03.

another scam website is:
http://www.wtidy.com/

Hi, add www.voguedm.com to

Submitted by FuLl (not verified) on Tue, 2007-08-14 13:55.

Hi,
add www.voguedm.com to the list. BIG SCAM. I have lost €177! :-(

please, anyone can check www.okvshopping.com

Thanx

FuLl

Thanks, I will add both

Submitted by chris on Wed, 2007-08-15 02:02.

Thanks, I will add both these sites to the list, as I do not believe www.okvshopping.com to be legitimate at all.

Add voguedm.com!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 2007-08-14 14:29.

Add voguedm.com! THIEVES!!

Please, can you check this sites?

www.okvshopping.com
www.imagic-shox.com

Thanx

Thanks again, will be sure

Submitted by chris on Wed, 2007-08-15 02:05.

Thanks again, will be sure these are added to the list.

for that www.qbmgz.com i

Submitted by ryad (not verified) on Tue, 2007-08-14 16:48.

for that www.qbmgz.com i have order before is honor company , why have in that list .i now still keep business with them .

Nice try. Counterfeit.

Submitted by chris on Wed, 2007-08-15 02:08.

Nice try. Counterfeit.

HI I have just stumbled

Submitted by Jeany (not verified) on Wed, 2007-08-15 17:33.

HI
I have just stumbled across CTT china's website and thought it too good to be true, however i put an order through and chose the money transfer option, i havent done this yet obviously- as i wanted to see if they would get in touch with me and demand payment.
After scrolling this webpage i have seen a few comments about them. Can you clarify their situation for me please as its awfully confusing.
Many thanks
jeany

If it's too good to be true,

Submitted by chris on Thu, 2007-08-16 01:48.

If it's too good to be true, then it probably is.

Your welcome to make your purchase, but based on the comments from others being ripped off, or receiving counterfeit items, and given you'll have no recourse to get your money back if you are scammed, why would you ?

can you tell me anything

Submitted by matthew (not verified) on Wed, 2007-08-15 22:44.

can you tell me anything about www.anpshoes.com

The website was created 30th

Submitted by chris on Thu, 2007-08-16 02:32.

The website was created 30th March 2007, and is registered to a Qiang Gao living in the US, Mountain View, California to be exact. Click here to see a map highlighting said apartment.

Down the bottom of the website www.anpshoes.com you will notice icons for all major Credit Cards.

A good sign.

But, their payment page http://www.anpshoes.com/payment.php makes no mention of Credit Cards.

A bad sign.

All in all, I'd say either scam or counterfeit.

hello,i think

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 2007-08-16 00:40.

hello,i think www.legend23.com is a belivable company,we always can get super goods from it

STRIKE TWO You are not

Submitted by chris on Thu, 2007-08-16 02:43.

STRIKE TWO

You are not welcome here. You also posted this comment from

IP Address: 125.78.224.205

Which is where ?

Location: China [City: Fuzhou, Fujian]

And where is www.legend23.com registered to ?

Organisation Address. putian
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. putian
Organisation Address. 300000
Organisation Address. FJ
Organisation Address. CN

Keh ? That's not a proper address, let's try the billing address listed for www.legend23.com

Bill Address......... xia men
Bill Address.........
Bill Address......... xia men
Bill Address......... 361009
Bill Address......... FJ
Bill Address......... CN

Still not a proper address....but FJ ? Could that be Fujian ?

www.gwzmusic.com Looks like

Submitted by Nick W (not verified) on Thu, 2007-08-16 01:12.

www.gwzmusic.com

Looks like a potential scam site, could be legit.

I told them I might be going to Beijing, they said your welcome to come to our store. (I've now decided to go to Hong Kong.)

But am still interested in buying from them... can someone tell me if they are legit or a scam please???

Could be legit why ? No

Submitted by chris on Thu, 2007-08-16 02:47.

Could be legit why ?

No buyer protection, they have used misleading dates, free email addresses. The fact that they are pretty much identical to 1500 other websites, which many are scamming people.

DO NOT TRADE WITH

Submitted by Jozsef Poor (not verified) on Fri, 2007-10-12 20:23.

DO NOT TRADE WITH GWZMUSIC.COM! THEY ARE NOTHING BUT RAW CHINESE SCAMMERS CLAIMING TO BE BASED IN BEJING IN CHINA!! WE ORDERED PHONES FROM THEM OVER £1,000 GBP AND GOT NOTHING. THEY CLAIMED OUR PHONES WERE SENT TO A WRONG ADDRESS AND DEMANDED A FURTHER £200 PAYMENT IN ORDER TO FORWARD GOODS!

IF YOU HAD SIMILAR BAD EXPERIENCE WITH COMPANIES BASED IN CHINA YOU MAY REPORT THEM TO: China Internet Illegal Information Reporting Centre (http://net.china.cn/). ALTERNATIVELY IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT SPEAK CHINESE TO FILL OUT FORMS YOU COULD TRY THIS ALSO: the Ministry of Public Security of the State Council at http://cyberpolice.cn.

DO NOT TRUST THIS COMPANY, DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE ORDERING FROM THEM. THEY ARE NOTHING BUT ROUGH NECK SCAMMERS!!!

gwzmusic.com are a scam

Submitted by Jozsef Poor (not verified) on Tue, 2007-10-16 17:44.

gwzmusic.com are a scam company here at BuyDay UK Ltd can confirm!

To all of you thinking of doing any kind of business with www.gwzmusic.com BE WARNED!!

The website is a scam!! We have been defrauded for £1,045.00 GBP after spending this for 5 x Apple iPhones that never arrived. The guy code named Weidong Ren uses several email addresses to carry out fraud! His Moneybooker's email address is gwzmusic@hotmail.com also he uses gwzmusic1@hotmail.com and other cover up emails he uses are: pspsaler@hotmail.com and pspsaler@yahoo.com. After not receiving the phones for 3 weeks he first claimed that the phones were sent to a wrong address to guy in China. He fabricated a story requesting (on this phantom customer's behalf) to send a further £200.00 GBP to forward the phones but told him that we were not prepared to pay extra for their mistakes. After some questioning it turned out that the phones were actually (new story) sent to Italy to a 'man' called Barbara. Huh?! Finally, we were given the option as: 1.) Pay £200.00 GBP or 2.) Forget the phones!!!

We would be interested to hear from anyone technically minded if you can see an option to track this fraudster down!

Thanks, Joe

GWZmusic.com is nothing but

Submitted by ExpertMobiles Ltd (not verified) on Tue, 2008-06-24 12:38.

GWZmusic.com is nothing but a FRAUD company.
They will take your money and that's it!
We have been conned for over £1,000!!!

DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM THESE SCAMMERS!!!

hi chris , i just want to

Submitted by cindy (not verified) on Thu, 2007-08-16 09:49.

hi chris , i just want to know , why you will think our website is scam website in your list , this is cindy , from china .we all is honor on our business , i can show you many tracking number which we shipment to all over the world if you want , pls do not destroy our website reputation .

Cindy. Your website sells

Submitted by chris on Thu, 2007-08-16 10:54.

Cindy.

Your website sells counterfeit items.

Your website offers customers no payment protection. When something goes wrong, you just block their MSN.

Right now there are hundreds of sites, just the same as yours, selling more conterfeit junk, or not sending anything at all. And the victims of your criminal acts cannot do anything, they cannot get their money back.

You may feel that you have been wronged, but hundreds of victims all over the world, would say otherwise. Just read the comments here from all these people who have been robbed.

Who are we to believe, when you tell us you are legitimate. Yet people say they have been robbed.

Cindy, you are hurting people by selling these counterfeit items. There are people like you, who take our money, and not send us anything. You hurt us by doing this.

So no Cindy, your website has no reputation to destroy. You like all these others are the ones damaging your own reputation by selling fake items, and ripping off hard working innocent victims.

http://www.qbmgz.com is the

Submitted by Carl (not verified) on Thu, 2007-08-16 10:02.

http://www.qbmgz.com is the worst shit ever, they said they was the only one who sells REAL electronics, I buyed for 900usd and all I got was shit.. and when I told them it wasent real they blocked me ! ARGH!

Carl. Dude. Seriously. That

Submitted by chris on Thu, 2007-08-16 10:11.

Carl. Dude. Seriously.

That was like the best timed comment I've ever seen, as you can see above like 10 minutes before, Cindy from the same website had only just asked about why their site is blocked, and damaging their reputation.

hi, An others two scam

Submitted by souf (not verified) on Thu, 2007-08-16 10:15.

hi,
An others two scam chinese websites :www.lsbeijing.com/www.21suma.com
i lost 300 euros !!Be Aware from them!!!!

Thanks, have added to the

Submitted by chris on Fri, 2007-08-17 01:19.

Thanks, have added to the list

for that Carl i have not

Submitted by cindy (not verified) on Thu, 2007-08-16 13:51.

for that Carl i have not know that guy , why he say loss 900usd from us ,and we block by he , what is he msn , if he have order from us that we will have record ,and before order that we all tell our customer ture that we do not sell real items , that is top quality copy goods , all customer order from us know about that .

Cindy 'top quality copy

Submitted by chris on Thu, 2007-08-16 22:53.

Cindy

'top quality copy goods' means Counterfeit. And in many parts of the world it's illegal.

Add this to your list. Same

Submitted by ecomall scammed me! (not verified) on Thu, 2007-08-16 18:51.

Add this to your list.

Same people as ecomall trying to sell electronics and handbags under a new name.

http://www.brandsdiscounts.com

Contact person is either Rose or Linda.

Fake address Tianhebei Road, Guangzhou, Guangdong

Money is wired to Guo Zhen Zou.

Avoid at all costs.

Many thanks, will add to the

Submitted by chris on Thu, 2007-08-16 22:55.

Many thanks, will add to the list.

a friend of mine ordered

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 2007-08-16 21:58.

a friend of mine ordered from www.anpshoes.com he recieved his items....but since you have stated possible things that would prove to be a scammer would u reccomend i do not order from then even though my friend received his items without any problems

So long as you understand

Submitted by chris on Thu, 2007-08-16 22:54.

So long as you understand that the goods are very likely counterfeit, and so long as you understand if anything goes wrong your money is lost.

ec07.com - Are you sure this

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 2007-08-16 22:31.

ec07.com - Are you sure this is a scam?

Now, I know for a fact that this company is a GOLD supplier on Alibaba - they also have a trusty profile. And have been in business on Alibaba since 2006.

I am going to China shortly, I told them I was interested in visiting their business - they said I am welcome to come.

I doubt true scammers would have a trusty profile on Alibaba + invite me to there store....

You mean like this

Submitted by chris on Thu, 2007-08-16 22:43.

You mean like this person

There are simply too many people losing their money, and too many people receiving counterfeit items under the pretense they are the real thing, for me to say anything else.

www.oosoon.com are already

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 2007-08-16 23:24.

www.oosoon.com are already on your blacklist and for a damn good reason, they are scammers. But I also wanted to share this:
They are also a gold supplier WITH trusty profile on alibaba - but I have confirmed from SEVERAL sources and they are indeed a scammer.

I confirm that they are

Submitted by Confirm that they are scammers (not verified) on Sun, 2007-09-02 15:45.

I confirm that they are scammers. I'm supposed to have bought a NOKIA mobile phone from them but they sent me a NOKLA instead. www.alibaba.com should remove their trusty profile or even remove them from their site.

Be in no doubt ...

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 2007-11-04 09:38.

Be in no doubt ... oosoon.com are SCAMMERS, I ordered genuine Nokia and got fakes.. Confirmation emails state: GENUINE with 12 month warranty and fakes turn up at my door, at least I got something. I have been in contact with oosoon, they acknowledge they sell fakes and it is OK to do so, it is also OK to deceive their customers... Refund is not a word in the Chinese dictionary.............BEWARE !!
THEY NEED TO BE STOPPED

There is a simple solution

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2007-08-17 00:05.

There is a simple solution to this, divide up this blog into two sections.

Sellers that Sell copy/immotation/fake stuff.

and

Sellers who take your money and dont send anything.

Then people will know what they are buying atleast.

Simple for whom ? Whether

Submitted by chris on Fri, 2007-08-17 00:32.

Simple for whom ?

Whether your selling counterfeit merchandise, or robbing people blind, it's illegal either way. Also many peope are not knowing they are buying counterfeit items.

It's important readers though understand the prupose of this list, as mentioned in the main text, this is our list of websites we are blocking in SiteHound

I was scam by Alltinx.com I

Submitted by Spanky (not verified) on Fri, 2007-08-17 00:14.

I was scam by Alltinx.com I placed a order with them and they never sent me my product. they talk good to you until you send them your money. they will tell you that your first order must be sent by bank transfer then after that they will put you on there cod list. they are a fake do not trust them.

Thanks for letting us know,

Submitted by chris on Fri, 2007-08-17 01:19.

Thanks for letting us know, have added to the list.

http://www.zhonghuatrade.com

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2007-08-17 03:05.

http://www.zhonghuatrade.com - real or fake?

P.S Thanks for the brainteaser. (4+1) :P

Those tricky questions help

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-20 05:12.

Those tricky questions help keep the spammers away :)

I wouldn't trust this site at all.

100% SCAMMER

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 2007-11-08 10:00.

100% SCAMMER

add this website to your

Submitted by chilenita (not verified) on Fri, 2007-08-17 06:02.

add this website to your list, the address of the company it is wrong.
www.cngool.com

Thanks, will add to the

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-20 05:16.

Thanks, will add to the list.

True. www.cngool.com is a

Submitted by Lukasz from Poland (not verified) on Fri, 2007-08-24 22:11.

True. www.cngool.com is a scammer! I sent 260 USD, after +80 USD! After that they deleted me from their skype list (cngool888). I will to call to Chinese embassy in Poland. In my opinion all where SWIFT code is "BKCH CN BJ 110" is fake! Example: http://www.eutue.com/info.asp?typename=payment and http://www.bj200808.com/se.asp?nowmenuid=500521 PEOPLE, BE CAREFUL!

hello chris , that sell on

Submitted by cindy (not verified) on Fri, 2007-08-17 07:14.

hello chris , that sell on the internet the 99% is copy , also in the ship also have copy goods mix in the real goods , that we know ,due to we have many customer sell in the ship and ebay of our goods , so that even people know that is copy , but they also want to buy , due to for the copy goods also have them market , that quality is top , but price is lowest then the real one .and for that .that i think you open this website and have many people left messsage on your webiste you need to know , many of them know that they can made the benefit from the copy goods .

Cindy. People do not benefit

Submitted by chris on Fri, 2007-08-17 22:59.

Cindy.

People do not benefit from counterfeit items. That's why it's illegal. Your website will remain on this list.

Well put, Chris! Couldn't

Submitted by Wilf (not verified) on Tue, 2007-08-21 14:40.

Well put, Chris! Couldn't have put it better myself!

Scammer or a not a scammer

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2007-08-17 09:33.

Scammer or a not a scammer ?

www.gwzmusic.com - seem legit... I googled around and couldn't find any sources that say he's a scammer. Sure his website looks cheap and is similar to others. But let's not assume he's a scammer just yet.

He showed me the product I wanted via webcam, and said I can pick it up if I go to Beijing.

so what happend, did you

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 2007-09-08 20:48.

so what happend, did you ordered anything from him, is he scammer?

i swear down fairpdt.com =

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2007-08-17 17:31.

i swear down
fairpdt.com = scam
bt dnt worry
i'll gt my money back
with the help ive got in store
wen i gt a name address etc....
there finnished
i waited 6 weeks for my xbox 360
bt it didnt come
how dare they
its changed my life forever
and im only a little inocent boy
i wont give up
cold hearted people
my mum worked hard for that money
DONT BUY FRM THERE!!!!
i want them shut down
we can all join together
and shut them down.
comment me

www okvshopping com just

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2007-08-17 19:35.

www okvshopping com just another ONE of the offers i recieved today...all the same message different sites..same scam

Can anyone verify if these

Submitted by jak (not verified) on Fri, 2007-08-17 21:38.

Can anyone verify if these are scammers? I'm trying to find someone who does personalized oil portrait paintings.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

www.davidoilpainting.com

www.fineartport.com

www.paintinghub.com

www.xmnewartinc.com

My gut feeling says to avoid

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-20 05:29.

My gut feeling says to avoid these sites, and avoid being scammed by dealing locally. But my lack on knowledge on artwork from China, also means it's not something I can really comment on. It would be great if someone who knew more about these things (and wasn't from China) could comment.

HI, I was just scammed for

Submitted by beth (not verified) on Fri, 2007-08-17 22:04.

HI, I was just scammed for about 554usd to wgtmdy.com, and now I have to reimburse the money someone paid me with on ebay. I have had great luck with doba.com however.

what was your payment method

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 2007-08-18 17:23.

what was your payment method because i noticed that they accept paypal

hi crhris glad you created

Submitted by sean (not verified) on Sat, 2007-08-18 00:30.

hi crhris glad you created this to help people not to get scammed i just came across a site threw www.dealtime.co.uk on there spnsered links its got this site http://www.jaksatronic.com on there i was wondering could you check this out for me cause im not sure if its real or not there is a picture of there shop under contact us and below the picture is these details
Store address :
Jl Bulungan Raya No 12
Jakarta Selatan, DKI Jakarta, 18273, ID
Phone (62)-21-74415253 Fax (62)-21-74415254
Email : Sales@jaksatronic.com
Website : http://www.jaksatronic.com

i have mailed them to ask if they will do a sample but could you look into this for me ok its its not china but very close ! oh and there payment are bank or wire transfer but i have brought like that in past of other places and have been ok thanks sean

Holy cow, at those prices I

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-20 05:32.

Holy cow, at those prices I would defintely avoid at all costs.

www.ec212.com - possible

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 2007-08-18 00:53.

www.ec212.com - possible scammers.

zhonghuatrade.com - possible scammers.

Thanks, will add to the list

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-20 05:34.

Thanks, will add to the list

Can anyone verify if this

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 2007-08-18 01:06.

Can anyone verify if this web page is a scammer?

Hi my name is Miguel, and I have a question
I Saw this company and just wanted to know if they are trustful
I want to buy some stuff from them: www.mobyledoomz.com

please if anyone has any information about Them. I'll appreciated
Thank you

No, I'd not trust this

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-20 05:40.

No, I'd not trust this site.

Website registered on 5th May 2007, only accepting Western Union and MoneyGram, yet apparently they have offices in the US.

Also their "accreditation" appears to have been faked, as can be seen here

http://www.imrg.com/8025696F004581B3/pages/imrg+Resources

What site is cindy so much

Submitted by Roneel (not verified) on Sat, 2007-08-18 03:01.

What site is cindy so much defending? We need to know.I saw this site after paying www.bestdealwithyou.com. Luckly after filing a dispute thru Paypal since i paid him thru that i got my money back.LUCKY ESCAPE!Can someone give a good site that sells DELL N HP brand new laptops?Even refurbished ones will do.Roneel

The site "Cindy" is

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-20 05:42.

The site "Cindy" is defending is www.qbmgz.com, a site which I would avoid at all costs.

For Dell or HP laptops try www.dell.com or www.hp.com

listen go to dhgate.com i

Submitted by Oscar (not verified) on Wed, 2007-08-29 00:23.

listen go to dhgate.com i have been doing business with them for a lobg time no matter what happens you get your money back or your product..one thing i like about them is that they use Escrow.com when you pay they money does'nt go to the seller ontil the goods is delivered to you and then you tell them if you are satisfied with the goods before they release the money to the seller..

hi, www.anpshoes.com...i

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 2007-08-18 03:53.

hi, www.anpshoes.com...i talked to someone named ms. eva she told me that i can pay with paypal...if i use pay pal am i 100% covered if anything happens?

IT NOT TRUE WHAT YOU

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 2008-05-27 03:39.

IT NOT TRUE WHAT YOU SAY,THERE A BIG SCAMMER

hello chris , our website :

Submitted by cindy (not verified) on Sat, 2007-08-18 08:26.

hello chris ,
our website : www.qbmgz.com is sell copy goods , but we after recieve money we will shipment the goods to our customer , that is not scam customer ,due to at first they know that they will buy is copy , and that decide by the customer if they want to buy .
i think i agree with one guy who had said to you divide up this blog into two sections.one is Sellers that Sell copy and one is
Sellers who take money and dont send anything.

I don't care what you think

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-20 05:45.

I don't care what you think Cindy :) There will be no splitting of the list, and all websites will be treated the same.

Hi I have found another

Submitted by David (not verified) on Sat, 2007-08-18 12:24.

Hi
I have found another chinese scammer - www.bestdealinchina.com

They will talk to you for weeks make you feel secured, then they take your money and thats the last you hear from them again.

Avoid dealing with Mr Cai Fa, Mr Huijuan Dong, Mr Qin Li.

After a bit more investigating Mr Qin Li actually comes up on the International Security Watch List.

Great, will add to the list.

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-20 05:46.

Great, will add to the list.

hello you feel for case is

Submitted by mourad (not verified) on Sat, 2007-08-18 21:19.

hello
you feel for case is situated a reliable one where I can buy one xbox 360

http://www.xbox.com ?

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-20 05:48.

http://www.xbox.com ?

Please add www.e-olcc.com.

Submitted by Mahana (not verified) on Sun, 2007-08-19 03:29.

Please add www.e-olcc.com. Same story as all the others that you listed. I haven't actually sent them money but they did contact me via Ebay... Annoying that Ebay won't stop the spam. I was on the verge of trying one of these companies out to see what happens, the deal just seemed so good! I'm glad that I found you guys though. Great site. Be careful though as these companies have some mean lawyers who may contact you.

Mahana.

Thanks, will add to list.

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-20 05:49.

Thanks, will add to list.

Hi... I had been a victim

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 2007-08-19 05:43.

Hi... I had been a victim also of these websites. They are just one company.

www.firstflyhandbag.com and www.firstflyshoes.com

Please, add them on to your list.

thanks,
Craig

They both appear offline for

Submitted by chris on Mon, 2007-08-20 05:51.

They both appear offline for me. But I'll add to the list regardless.

Thanks

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